4E

Vigo

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Level 18
The Carpathian

For those interested, D&D 4th edition will be coming out May '08.  I am just wondering how they can possibly pry money out of most gamers greasy, sweaty palms?  Hell, most people won't switch.  3.5 is still pretty new.  Thoughts?

jdb2112

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I feel you underestimate the masses. 4th edition will succeed for the same reason 3rd edition and 3.5 did. For the most part people can't resist buying the new shiny thing. And they have a captive audience in the RPGA. The only way it will fail is if it actually sucks.

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Vigo

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Level 18
The Carpathian

Unless the change doesn't screw over current characters in the conversion and mess with DM's heads' too much, then it might stand a chance.  But you are right with the new and shiney.  I will definately be keeping an eye out on it.  I like new things....

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Vigo

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Level 18
The Carpathian

4E will get to the point of being like an MMORPG that you play at home like a normal one but it plays just like a table top.  I watched all the youtubes and figure I should just do another mmo instead of 4E.  They both have benefits, but with an mmo, you pay less money at least.

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badjuju

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They've said everything released from here on will be "system independent" or some such.


That strongly implies that you can cross from 3 to 4 fairly easily.

I'm expecting something like d20 modern + Tome of Battle.


Also for it to be very flavorful, and have bad supporting  rules, cause that's how Mike Mearls rolls.

Badjuju, Splinterhoof, Plainsrunner, Dedbob, and pretty much any other Juju you can find.

Castlin

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If they're really making grapple usable and getting rid of XP cost to create magic items, I am down. It also sounds like they're going to give non-magicusers resources to manage, which I am in favor of.

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Vigo

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Level 18
The Carpathian

xp cost for item creation never made sense to me.  Are you infusing it with part of your mind and soul?

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badjuju

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Level 13

Vigo wrote:
xp cost for item creation never made sense to me. Are you infusing it with part of your mind and soul?

Pretty much.

 

Also because they should be rare as hell or something.

I like the answer.

The question was asked if magic items will cost xp.  The answer was "No.  Hell no."

Badjuju, Splinterhoof, Plainsrunner, Dedbob, and pretty much any other Juju you can find.

Brawlizard

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Level 18
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damn it damn it damn it.

I actually like what i've read so far.  This is so not good.

 [edit] - Also 3.5 isn't "still new" at all.  By the time 4.0 comes out it will have been 5 years old, exactly as long as they waited from 3.0 to 3.5.  The main difference is they are being more open about the timeline, meaning they are starting PR and discussions earlier.

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Vigo

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Level 18
The Carpathian

Brawlizard wrote:

damn it damn it damn it.

I actually like what i've read so far. This is so not good.

I feel ya man.  I so don't want to spend the money though.  The deciding factor will be the total cost.  I think they are charging a fee for the D&D Insider.  If that is the case I will more than likely say no to 4E. 

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Castlin

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D&D insider will be a monthly subscription, but it comes currently with subscriptions to Dragon and Dungeon. So that's cool.

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